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OnyX - This worked, thank you SO MUCH Glenn!!! I am truly so very happy now. My Shift-Command-4 now makes JPGs in 10.7.4, I am so very happy about that.
I really appreciate it. Really, so happy, I make screenshots alot, this totally helps.

Blessings to you.

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On Jul 4, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Glenn Gutierrez wrote:

> On 4 Jul 2012, at 3:51 PM, Dale Dreher wrote:
>
> > System Software issue: How to Reset TERMINAL.app on MacBook Pro:
> >
> > I recently upgraded my system software from 10.6.8, to Lion 10.7.4. With 10.6.8 my Shift-Command-4 Screenshots were JPGs. now with 10.7.4 they are .PNG files by default.
> >
> > I have heard there is a text to paste into the Terminal.app under Applications/Utilities/Terminal - I tried that and messed it up somehow. Now I cant take screenshots at all. I tried to Restore my Terminal.app to last weeks settings via Time Macine Restore, but since it is System software it won't restore. So, now what do I do?
> >
> > I know about using Grab for Screenshots but the default file format on that is .Tiff and there are too many steps. I take Lots of screenshots and the MacBook keystrokes worked very well except that there have begun to be .PNGs. I would be happy to just get back to the PNGs at this point.
> >
> > Any ideas very much welcome.
>
> Hi Dale,
>
> Terminal is simply a tool that lets you get down to the command line layer of OS X/Unix and, in this case, directly edit some system settings. So you don't need to reset Terminal itself. You need to reset whatever settings were borked.
>
> If you are a beginner at this, I'd recommend using a free tool like Onyx. It lets you adjust "hidden" OS settings like this, but gives you a graphical interface in which to do it. Much easier/safer.
>
> http://www.titanium.free.fr/download.php
>
> In Onyx, screen capture settings are under Parameters > General. Hopefully, setting those to JPEG in Onyx will overwrite whatever you did earlier from Terminal (maybe adjust this to PNG and back to JPEG a couple of times to be sure).
>
> If that doesn't work, let us know exactly what you typed into Terminal.
>
> Good luck!
>
> G
>
>

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On 4 Jul 2012, at 3:51 PM, Dale Dreher wrote:

> System Software issue: How to Reset TERMINAL.app on MacBook Pro:
>
> I recently upgraded my system software from 10.6.8, to Lion 10.7.4. With 10.6.8 my Shift-Command-4 Screenshots were JPGs. now with 10.7.4 they are .PNG files by default.
>
> I have heard there is a text to paste into the Terminal.app under Applications/Utilities/Terminal - I tried that and messed it up somehow. Now I cant take screenshots at all. I tried to Restore my Terminal.app to last weeks settings via Time Macine Restore, but since it is System software it won't restore. So, now what do I do?
>
> I know about using Grab for Screenshots but the default file format on that is .Tiff and there are too many steps. I take Lots of screenshots and the MacBook keystrokes worked very well except that there have begun to be .PNGs. I would be happy to just get back to the PNGs at this point.
>
> Any ideas very much welcome.

Hi Dale,

Terminal is simply a tool that lets you get down to the command line layer of OS X/Unix and, in this case, directly edit some system settings. So you don't need to reset Terminal itself. You need to reset whatever settings were borked.

If you are a beginner at this, I'd recommend using a free tool like Onyx. It lets you adjust "hidden" OS settings like this, but gives you a graphical interface in which to do it. Much easier/safer.

http://www.titanium.free.fr/download.php

In Onyx, screen capture settings are under Parameters > General. Hopefully, setting those to JPEG in Onyx will overwrite whatever you did earlier from Terminal (maybe adjust this to PNG and back to JPEG a couple of times to be sure).

If that doesn't work, let us know exactly what you typed into Terminal.

Good luck!

G

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System Software issue: How to Reset TERMINAL.app on MacBook Pro:

I recently upgraded my system software from 10.6.8, to Lion 10.7.4. With 10.6.8 my Shift-Command-4 Screenshots were JPGs. now with 10.7.4 they are .PNG files by default.

I have heard there is a text to paste into the Terminal.app under Applications/Utilities/Terminal - I tried that and messed it up somehow. Now I cant take screenshots at all. I tried to Restore my Terminal.app to last weeks settings via Time Macine Restore, but since it is System software it won't restore. So, now what do I do?

I know about using Grab for Screenshots but the default file format on that is .Tiff and there are too many steps. I take Lots of screenshots and the MacBook keystrokes worked very well except that there have begun to be .PNGs. I would be happy to just get back to the PNGs at this point.

Any ideas very much welcome.

Thank you!

Dale Dreher
Los Angeles, CA
dale@hazardtown.com

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On 26 Jun 2012, at 10:37 AM, texasexpediter wrote:

> With my pc I used Firefox and had a tab for yahoo mail and a tab for gmail and now and then a tab to check the other two. With my new MBP I clicked on the stamp with the eagle and put my 4 emails into it. On one of the two yahoo emails it repeatedly asks for my password even though I click save to the keychain. Also, it repeatedly puts a tilde next to it and makes it offline or something.
>
> Is there a good email freeware or shareware?
>
> Is it better to just use Safari and go online like I used to?
>
> Thanks for any and all advice.

Aside from my more-reliable Gmail and private server email accounts, I have some older ones on Yahoo, Live (MS) and AOL. They randomly error out, telling Mail that my password is wrong when it worked 5 minutes prior, and that causes Mail to turn around and ask for your password again. You can hit 'Cancel' to leave your password as-is.

If you are using IMAP with these services, you could try reverting to good old POP3/SMTP. That's slightly less error-prone, since it's simpler.

But it's not Apple Mail at fault. Any remote email app will have the same problem if the server doesn't act right.

G

With my pc I used Firefox and had a tab for yahoo mail and a tab for gmail and now and then a tab to check the other two. With my new MBP I clicked on the stamp with the eagle and put my 4 emails into it. On one of the two yahoo emails it repeatedly asks for my password even though I click save to the keychain. Also, it repeatedly puts a tilde next to it and makes it offline or something.

Is there a good email freeware or shareware?

Is it better to just use Safari and go online like I used to?

Thanks for any and all advice.

--- In macbook@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Gutierrez <yah@...> wrote:
> On 24 Jun 2012, at 9:45 PM, Carol wrote:
> > Thank you folx. I tried App Store today and was able to download OS 10.7.4.
> > BUT -- now a lot of my applications don't work, especially Eudora, which I have used for mail since 1998. I tried Mail, but it won't let me send mail. Can someone tell me where to get info on Mail? Or better yet, a mail program similar to Eudora that works with 10.7.4?
> > Also Firefox basically doesn't work now. It has been my main browser and all my bookmarks are there. HELP!
>
> Unfortunately, Eudora is so old that it has been running under PowerPC emulation (Rosetta) since you switched to an Intel Mac. With OS X Lion, Apple finally cut that cord. Emulation for PowerPC apps is no longer available.
>
> I was a Eudora user as well. The switch to Apple Mail was actually not so bad. I love it now. I used "Eudora Mailbox Cleaner" to do the conversion when it was clear that Eudora was abandoned (years ago). That's another PowerPC app, however. D'oh! But I believe Apple Mail may have some of its own conversion routines built-in now. Some of the Eudora folks were working on a skin to make Mozilla Thunderbird more like Eudora, but these are the same people that abandoned Eudora in the first place, after milking "subscription" payments out of loyal users (including me) with zero updates, so I decided not to trust that group anymore.

Thank you but I like to manage my mail in Verizon webmail so I can get rid of spam etc. before downloading it to my Mac. "Mail" seems to have all my mail right away, so I don't have that safety feature. Downloading to Eudora cleared out the Verizon webmail mailbox, but "Mail" doesn't, so the Verizon mailbox is a mess now. Since I can't send mail from "Mail" I need to use the Verizon site now, and I use it when I'm on the road. So basically I'll need to do all the work of culling and deleting twice.

> Regarding Apple Mail not sending email, that's not so easy to diagnose without seeing it. If you can receive email ok, but just cannot send, then you probably don't have the outgoing server setup properly. If you are using IMAP, that shouldn't happen. If you are using POP3 to get your mail, then your SMTP settings need to be checked (correct server, correct port, SSL on/off, authentication, etc.).

Thank you but I don't know how to check these. Tried "Mail Help" but it doesn't help.

When I try to send mail, "Mail" says "Cannot send message using the server outgoing.verizon.net." It says to choose another from the list of servers but that's the only one on the list. Can you suggest others to try?

> Many "if's" already. That may be worth a trip to an Apple store.

This whole mess started because I got an iPad to use on a trip I'm taking very soon now. I don't have time to find an Apple store. I wish Apple had told me "If you get 10.7, these applications won't work any more."

> Or if possible, set up the account(s) fresh, and let the Mail app assist as much as it can. The app has a lot of auto-setup for most large services, and since it's so common, your mail provider may even have specific setup instructions for Apple Mail.

Not sure what you mean by "set up the account fresh." I'm at https://support.apple.com/kb/HT1277 and tried "Add Account" but "Mail" says my account already has this host name and user name.

> The good news: Firefox is completely up to date. I'd guess that you got stuck on an old PowerPC timeline that never auto-updated--for good reason. Just go and grab the latest Intel version at http://getfirefox.com/

That worked, at least. I run Software Update every week and thought it was keeping up on Firefox but apparently not.

--- In macbook@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Gutierrez <yah@...> wrote:
> On 24 Jun 2012, at 9:45 PM, Carol wrote:
> > Thank you folx. I tried App Store today and was able to download OS 10.7.4.
> > BUT -- now a lot of my applications don't work, especially Eudora, which I have used for mail since 1998. I tried Mail, but it won't let me send mail. Can someone tell me where to get info on Mail? Or better yet, a mail program similar to Eudora that works with 10.7.4?
> > Also Firefox basically doesn't work now. It has been my main browser and all my bookmarks are there. HELP!
>
> Unfortunately, Eudora is so old that it has been running under PowerPC emulation (Rosetta) since you switched to an Intel Mac. With OS X Lion, Apple finally cut that cord. Emulation for PowerPC apps is no longer available.
>
> I was a Eudora user as well. The switch to Apple Mail was actually not so bad. I love it now. I used "Eudora Mailbox Cleaner" to do the conversion when it was clear that Eudora was abandoned (years ago). That's another PowerPC app, however. D'oh! But I believe Apple Mail may have some of its own conversion routines built-in now. Some of the Eudora folks were working on a skin to make Mozilla Thunderbird more like Eudora, but these are the same people that abandoned Eudora in the first place, after milking "subscription" payments out of loyal users (including me) with zero updates, so I decided not to trust that group anymore.

Thank you but I like to manage my mail in Verizon webmail so I can get rid of spam etc. before downloading it to my Mac. "Mail" seems to have all my mail right away, so I don't have that safety feature. Downloading to Eudora cleared out the Verizon webmail mailbox, but "Mail" doesn't, so the Verizon mailbox is a mess now. Since I can't send mail from "Mail" I need to use the Verizon site now, and I use it when I'm on the road. So basically I'll need to do all the work of culling and deleting twice.

> Regarding Apple Mail not sending email, that's not so easy to diagnose without seeing it. If you can receive email ok, but just cannot send, then you probably don't have the outgoing server setup properly. If you are using IMAP, that shouldn't happen. If you are using POP3 to get your mail, then your SMTP settings need to be checked (correct server, correct port, SSL on/off, authentication, etc.).

Thank you but I don't know how to check these. Tried "Mail Help" but it doesn't help.

When I try to send mail, "Mail" says "Cannot send message using the server outgoing.verizon.net." It says to choose another from the list of servers but that's the only one on the list. Can you suggest others to try?

> Many "if's" already. That may be worth a trip to an Apple store.

This whole mess started because I got an iPad to use on a trip I'm taking very soon now. I don't have time to find an Apple store. I wish Apple had told me "If you get 10.7, these applications won't work any more."

> Or if possible, set up the account(s) fresh, and let the Mail app assist as much as it can. The app has a lot of auto-setup for most large services, and since it's so common, your mail provider may even have specific setup instructions for Apple Mail.

Not sure what you mean by "set up the account fresh." I'm at https://support.apple.com/kb/HT1277 and tried "Add Account" but "Mail" says my account already has this host name and user name.

> The good news: Firefox is completely up to date. I'd guess that you got stuck on an old PowerPC timeline that never auto-updated--for good reason. Just go and grab the latest Intel version at http://getfirefox.com/

That worked, at least. I run Software Update every week and thought it was keeping up on Firefox but apparently not.